Every operation is HTTPS on 443. Measured that partial clone with the blob filter works over gitea's smart HTTP, so list never needed ssh; I had built and measured it over ssh out of habit. The tool writes only to the working tree — a fetched document, a lock, a facet — and never commits or pushes, so it needs no write credential anywhere, including this repository. Same reason cart gives for an agent committing and not pushing: the consequences of a push land on people it cannot experience. write:repository should never appear on a token this tool holds. The exception is published check, which needs an identity that is not the owner's. That is not an ssh problem and not solvable by scoping — it is the command's point. Anonymous or a reader credential, both HTTPS, and checked-as-owner-proves-nothing when neither is held. One untested assumption, and it is load-bearing: whether a read-scoped PAT authenticates git over HTTPS and not only the API and raw files. Those are different paths in gitea and only the second was ever measured. If it needs a broader scope, that is the sole argument for keeping ssh for list. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com> Claude-Session: https://claude.ai/code/session_018UTxuSizozEA8yDitPuris
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# claude — cart `marmalade`
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**`osprey` converted, so this is a new round.** *Its name is meaningless and I
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picked it arbitrarily.*
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**Rewritten to dissolve your annotations.** *The prompts below are answered rather
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than asked, and what is still open says so.*
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---
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## How the round opened
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**Your notes arrived as `jeff-osprey.md`, into a cart that had converted.** *Moved
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unedited to `loom-marmalade.md`, because `cart` allows two files and gives the
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test — **what happens to this file when the person changes?*** *`jeff-…` dies with
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you, so it is a person and not a stake, and loom renamed itself to `loom` last
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round saying that if you wrote here you would write into that file.*
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**And the timing was mine, not yours.** *`cart` says do not convert while somebody
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is mid-thought; I asked, you approved a plan, and approving a plan is not the same
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as having nothing left to write.*
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> **You called that the design rather than the defect, and you are right.** *There
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> is a deliberate buffer — **better to make a mess occasionally, inside the cart,
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> than to carry rules strict enough to prevent it.*** **The shelf exists for this
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> and did not even need to be used**, *because you simply wrote it again into the
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> next round.*
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*So it is recorded as the mechanism working, not as something to fix.*
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---
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## Settled this round
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### `published check`, and why it cannot report a verdict
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**`reachable` is gone as a word.** *The command is `loomctl published check`, so
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that `check` means one thing on both sides: **ask somebody else whether what we
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believe is still true.***
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**And the test is not "is this public".** *I built it that way and you broke it:*
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**`homelab-cluster` publishes six documents and is private on purpose.**
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*`publication.md` says what a repository has handed over for **others** to depend
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on* — **others, not everyone**, *and I read one word as the other.*
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**So the command reports the identity it used, never a verdict:**
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```
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gitea.md 200 as anonymous
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gitea.md 200 as reader
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gitea.md 200 as jeffry — OWNER, this proves nothing
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```
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> **The third line is what earns the command.** *`publication.md` says publishing
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> is not an act you can complete alone* — **and a tool that verifies your
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> publication with your own credential has helped you complete it alone, and told
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> you it was fine.**
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*Which makes your `auth` section load-bearing: **a kubeconfig-shaped config is not
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only credentials, it is named identities you can test as.*** **`--as <context>` is
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the whole feature.**
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### No audience declaration
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**Confirmed: no field where a repository states who it published for.** *It would
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let the tool compare intent to result, and it asserts a category nobody has
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decided* — **the argument that killed `init`.**
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**`--as` defaults to anonymous and the owner warning is always on.**
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*Your future version is better than a declaration and does not need one:* **project
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it from the other side — read everybody's `externals/` and derive who is actually
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depending on you.** *Nothing now; it is `registry`'s shape, and `registry` is
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deliberately not built.*
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### `external list` talks to git
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**Measured across three hosts.** *`git archive --remote` is out — gitea allows it,
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GitHub `422`s, GitLab `404`s.* **Partial clone is uniform:**
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```
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git clone --filter=blob:none --depth=1 --no-checkout then git ls-tree HEAD:.loom/published
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gitea filter ok .git=124KB
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github filter ok .git=124KB
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gitlab filter ok .git=144KB
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jeffry/homelab-cluster 0s 124KB over ssh, private
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databases.md gitea.md private-access.md
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public-access.md recovering-data.md storage.md
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```
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**REST would have been three dialects, not one with variations:**
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```
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gitea /api/v1/repos/{o}/{r}/contents/{path}
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github /repos/{o}/{r}/contents/{path} (api.github.com)
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gitlab /api/v4/projects/{url-encoded}/repository/tree
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```
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**The argument for git is consistency, not thrift.** *One mechanism against three
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hosts instead of three adapters* — **and REST `404`s on the private repository,
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which is the case that matters.**
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**The failure mode to build for:** *`--filter` is a server capability and git's
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fallback is **silent***, warning `filtering not recognized by server` and
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downloading everything. **`--depth=1` bounds the damage, which is why both flags
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are there.** *Detect the warning and say so, rather than letting `list` quietly
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become a full clone of somebody's monorepo.*
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### Transports, honestly
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| | transport | credential |
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| **`external list`** | git | *ssh key or https creds you already have* |
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| **`external add`, `external check`** | HTTP | **a read token, for private repos** |
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| **`published check`** | HTTP | ***not* the owner's — that is the point** |
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**Two credentials per host, not one.** *I claimed earlier that git collapsed most
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of the `auth` story; it does not.* **`add` and `check` want HTTP because freshness
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is a conditional request** — *a `304` is a few hundred bytes and a partial clone is
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124KB, so checking eight externals over git would cost a megabyte to learn
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nothing.*
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### Subcommands now; plugins when somebody reports a gap
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**`loomctl external …`, `loomctl published …`, and `loomctl beads …` when it
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exists.**
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**No plugin boundary yet**, *and your framing is better than my reasoning was:*
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**the seam gets built when it is a reported gap, not a designed one.** *`kubectl`
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and `gh` both grew plugins after somebody outside wanted in* — **and a gap is
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exactly how loom says that arrives**, *with a name attached and a workaround
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recorded beside it.*
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### `--help` is the documentation surface; `.loom/published/` is later
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**You are right about what actually happens:** *hand somebody an unfamiliar CLI and
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they run `--help`.* **That is the discovery surface, so it is the one that has to
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be good** — *for a person and for an agent, which mostly means the same thing:
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say what a command does and what it will not do.*
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**A `.loom/published/` for `loomctl` is deferred, not declined.** *The distinction
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matters, because `init` was declined and this is not.* **When somebody depends on
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this tool's behaviour rather than reading its help, that is when it has a contract
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worth publishing** — *and `published check` gets to be run against its own
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repository, which is a nicer acceptance test than anything I would write.*
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---
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## Measured, so nobody re-derives it
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**A read token, issued for one session and since deleted.**
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**It authenticates raw HTTP on a private repository.** *`404` anonymous, `200` with
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`Authorization: token` **or** `Bearer`, and `If-None-Match` returns `304`
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authenticated.* **So `add` and `check` work on private repositories** — *the
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assumption the specimen made and nobody had run.*
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**The gitea `ETag`/blob coincidence holds on private repositories too.** *Which
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changes nothing, because we do not use it.*
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**And the specimen's sharpest claim needed correcting, by you making me try the
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write:**
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```
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POST …/contents/… 403
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required=[write:repository]
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token scope=read:activitypub,…,read:repository,read:user
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```
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*`/api/v1/repos/{o}/{r}` reports `admin, push, pull: true` for a token that cannot
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write — those are the **account's** rights.* **But the refusal names the scope.**
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> **A token cannot be asked what it may do. It can only be told, by being
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> refused.**
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**No other channel exists:** *`/api/v1/users/{u}/tokens` rejects token auth
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outright, and no scope header comes back on success.* **For us this changes the
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reason and not the rule** — *`loomctl` never writes, so it never provokes the one
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response that would tell it anything.* **Surface gitea's error bodies rather than
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replacing them**, *since they carry the only scope information the host emits.*
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---
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## Still open: where the credential lives
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**The token is deleted and we said we would decide this soon. It is the one thing
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this round has not answered.**
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**What `osprey` fixed and still holds:** *it lives in `~`, never in a repository,
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and it is named for its scope because the name is the only record.*
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**What is new, and what makes it harder:** *the config is no longer only a secret.*
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**It is how you talk to a host at all** — *API shape, ssh on a strange port, which
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transport `check` should use, and now **named identities to test as***. *Some of
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that is not secret and several people would want the same values.*
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> **The obvious answer is to split it:** *a host list that can be committed, and a
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> credential file that cannot.* **I have not thought it through and I am naming it
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> rather than deciding it.**
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**Fallback if unanswered:** *one file in `~`, kubeconfig-shaped, holding both — and
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an entry recording that the split is expected and was not done yet.* **Nothing in
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the repository, and nothing that reads from the repository**, *so that the mistake
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we would most regret is the one that cannot happen by accident.*
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---
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## Corrections I made this round
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**Kept together, because there are three and the pattern is the point.**
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**I claimed git collapsed the auth story.** *It does not — I liked my answer.*
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**I confirmed the token claim enthusiastically without testing the case that would
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show it wrong.** *You made me try the write and the refusal named the scopes.*
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**I built `published check` on anonymous fetchability.** *Publication has an
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audience and the audience is not always everyone.*
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> **All three are the same shape: a result that agreed with me, and no test of the
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> case that would not have.** *It is also exactly what `osprey` found in the
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> `ETag` story* — **a verified fact is much louder than a rule** — *and I have now
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> done it three times in a day while writing that sentence down.*
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*Not an apology. **A thing to point a test at**, and the reason the log carries a
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belief rather than a conclusion.*
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---
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## Reviewed: what needs ssh, and what needs write
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**Short answer: ssh, nothing. Write access, nowhere — including here.**
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### Every operation, and what it actually needs
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| | what it does | transport | credential |
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| **`external list`** | *partial clone, `ls-tree` the published dir* | **git over HTTPS** | *read PAT* |
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| **`external add`** | *`GET` the raw file, record URL + `ETag`* | **HTTPS** | *read PAT* |
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| **`external check`** | *conditional `GET`, `If-None-Match`* | **HTTPS** | *read PAT* |
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| **`published check`** | *`GET` our own published file* | **HTTPS** | ***not ours*** |
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| **everything it writes** | *files in the working tree* | **none** | **none** |
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**Measured just now: `git clone --filter=blob:none --depth=1 --no-checkout` over
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`https://` on gitea** — *filter accepted, 124KB, `ls-tree` lists the published
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directory.* **I had built and measured `list` over ssh out of habit, and it never
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needed it.**
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### The tool never writes over the network, so it needs no write credential
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**Including in this repository.** *`loomctl` puts files in the working tree — a
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fetched document, a lock, a facet — and stops.* **Committing and pushing are yours,
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under your own credentials.**
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> *That is the same reason `cart` gives for an agent committing and not pushing:*
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> **the consequences of a push land on people it cannot experience.** *A tool that
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> can push is a tool that can publish, and publishing is supposed to be an act
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> somebody performs.*
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**So `write:repository` should never appear on any token this tool is given**, *and
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a token that has it is a token we would rather not hold.*
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### The one thing a single PAT cannot do
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**`published check` needs an identity that is not the owner's, and yours is
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yours.** *That is not an ssh problem and it is not solvable by scoping — **it is
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the command's entire point.***
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**Two workable identities, both HTTPS:**
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- **anonymous** — *the right answer when the audience is everyone*
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- **a second credential belonging to the actual audience** — *a reader account, or
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a token from somebody in the group you published for*
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*And if you hold neither, the honest output is **"checked as owner, proves
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nothing"**, which is still worth printing.*
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### One thing untested, and it is the load-bearing one
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**Whether a gitea PAT scoped `read:repository` authenticates *git over HTTPS*, not
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just the API and raw files.** *They are different paths in gitea, and the deleted
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token was only ever measured against the second.* **Measured: an unauthenticated
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HTTPS clone of the private repository returns `Failed to authenticate user`**, *so
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something is required; nobody has confirmed that a read PAT is enough.*
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**First thing to run against the next token.** *If it turns out git-over-HTTPS
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needs a broader scope than raw HTTP, that is an argument for keeping ssh for `list`
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after all* — **and it would be the only argument.**
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### An aside that is too neat not to record
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**`:2222` cost me three tool calls and a guess, and the tool does not need it.**
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*Every transport here is HTTPS on 443.* **The fact that bit me is a fact for
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people cloning repositories, not for `loomctl`** — *which is its own small lesson
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about who a published document is for.*
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### Implementation note: keep the token out of the URL
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**Do not build `https://<token>@host/…`.** *git writes the remote into
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`.git/config`, and it turns up in logs and in `git remote -v` afterwards.*
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**Pass it per-invocation instead:**
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```
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git -c http.extraHeader="Authorization: token <t>" clone --filter=blob:none …
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```
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*Nothing persisted, nothing in the repository.* **Which is the same rule as the
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credential file: the mistake we would most regret is the one that happens by
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accident.**
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